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« on: May 30, 2009, 11:59:15 PM »
can u please explain about how much space is hidden when partitioned.. 
 1gb pendrive is shown as 956 mb  how can u give some info.. and this also happen in Hard Disk
Yes I can explain it very well as I was curious about it too when I bought my first 20GB harddisk and was surprised to see only 18.6 GB. I was about to return it back claiming it was damaged when I researched and found out why.

It isn't because of the cluster size.

Here's the explanation.
HDD manufacturers label and make the HDDs using 1000 bytes = 1kb (kilobyte), 1000kb = 1mb (megabyte) and so on. But according to computers 1024 bytes = 1 kb, 1024 kb = 1 mb and so on.
So, computer always will recognize less space due to different measurement values.

Take the analogy of money in this case. 1$ amounts to 76 Rs.. 76 seems so much more than 1, but in reality its the same. Its just a difference in measurement. Though the unit ($, rs) is changed in this case and unit (kb, mb) doesn't change in the HDDs case which makes it even more confusing.

For calculating actual disk space of any size of disk. Do this:
If you have a 40 GB HDD, calculate its equivalent in bytes using 1000 bytes =1 kb concept. As this is used by manufacturers.

40 GB = 40,000 MB = 40,000,000 KB = 40,000,000,000 bytes.

By this we get actual bytes. Now convert it into actual amount of HDD by dividing it with 1024.

40,000,000,000 bytes = 39062500 kb = 38146.97265625 mb = 37.252902984619140625 GB.

So this is the actual amount of GBs we get when buying 40GB HDD.

Same is the case with Flash Pen Drives.

hope that you understood. Its not so complex mathematics as it seems, its just due to huge figures.

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« on: May 30, 2009, 11:59:15 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2009, 02:10:00 PM »
in short its called FRICTION!!

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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2009, 02:22:36 PM »
inshort its called FRICTION!!

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Sorry. Didn't get you

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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2009, 02:28:11 PM »
Quote from:  link=topic=143.msg872#msg872 date=
inshort its called FRICTION!!

chandal
Sorry. Didn't get you
the above process which u explaimed is called said to be friction!!
HDD looses from portion while formatting and during partation and its due to a process called FRICTION!!

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« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2009, 02:39:54 PM »
Quote from:  link=topic=143.msg872#msg872 date=
inshort its called FRICTION!!

chandal
Sorry. Didn't get you
the above process which u explaimed is called said to be friction!!
HDD looses from portion while formatting and during partation and its due to a process called FRICTION!!

chandal
I don't know about FRICTION but I am talking about something else, I guess. I am talking about difference between actual PRINTED HDD size and actual HDD size shown on computer.

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« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2009, 07:51:42 PM »
can u please explain about how much space is hidden when partitioned.. 
 1gb pendrive is shown as 956 mb  how can u give some info.. and this also happen in Hard Disk
Yes I can explain it very well as I was curious about it too when I bought my first 20GB harddisk and was surprised to see only 18.6 GB. I was about to return it back claiming it was damaged when I researched and found out why.

It isn't because of the cluster size.

Here's the explanation.
HDD manufacturers label and make the HDDs using 1000 bytes = 1kb (kilobyte), 1000kb = 1mb (megabyte) and so on. But according to computers 1024 bytes = 1 kb, 1024 kb = 1 mb and so on.
So, computer always will recognize less space due to different measurement values.

Take the analogy of money in this case. 1$ amounts to 76 Rs.. 76 seems so much more than 1, but in reality its the same. Its just a difference in measurement. Though the unit ($, rs) is changed in this case and unit (kb, mb) doesn't change in the HDDs case which makes it even more confusing.

For calculating actual disk space of any size of disk. Do this:
If you have a 40 GB HDD, calculate its equivalent in bytes using 1000 bytes =1 kb concept. As this is used by manufacturers.

40 GB = 40,000 MB = 40,000,000 KB = 40,000,000,000 bytes.

By this we get actual bytes. Now convert it into actual amount of HDD by dividing it with 1024.

40,000,000,000 bytes = 39062500 kb = 38146.97265625 mb = 37.252902984619140625 GB.

So this is the actual amount of GBs we get when buying 40GB HDD.

Same is the case with Flash Pen Drives.

hope that you understood. Its not so complex mathematics as it seems, its just due to huge figures.

Absolutely great explanation .
What is the amt of storage we get in 1TB hd.

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« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2009, 08:03:37 PM »
Absolutely great explanation .
What is the amt of storage we get in 1TB hd.
Calculate that yourself, bro.

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« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2009, 10:17:07 AM »
Quote from:  link=topic=143.msg885#msg885 date=
Absolutely great explanation .
What is the amt of storage we get in 1TB hd.
Calculate that yourself, bro.
does this trick work for any size!!

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« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2009, 10:22:47 AM »
Quote from:  link=topic=143.msg885#msg885 date=
Absolutely great explanation .
What is the amt of storage we get in 1TB hd.
Calculate that yourself, bro.
does this trick work for any size!!

chandal
Yep.. convert the printed size into bytes by multiplying by 1000 specific number of times. Then dividing it by 1024 the same times.

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« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2009, 01:39:53 PM »
Quote from:  link=topic=143.msg942#msg942 date=
Quote from:  link=topic=143.msg885#msg885 date=
Absolutely great explanation .
What is the amt of storage we get in 1TB hd.
Calculate that yourself, bro.
does this trick work for any size!!

chandal
Yep.. convert the printed size into bytes by multiplying by 1000 specific number of times. Then dividing it by 1024 the same times.
thanks...still bit confusing!!
will try it!!
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« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2009, 01:54:57 PM »
Yeah.. its not so much confusing. Try it and you will find out in no time.

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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2009, 03:29:37 PM »
yea previously i also found it confusing but its really easy

i calculated the space we get  in 1 tb hd
and the result was 931

About 70 gb will be gone
a big sacrifice ........lol

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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2009, 03:35:48 PM »
lol.. yeah
thats cleverness of the HDD manufacturers.

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« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2009, 10:01:56 AM »
thanks..at first i thought some portion of harddisk is reserved by computer for formating etc..